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Post by D4wrestling on Feb 13, 2020 12:04:24 GMT -5
33 Teams in D4
Weight # of entries # of Entries with a winning record 106: 22 entries 16 with a winning record (11 if you drop forfeits) (11 no entries) 113: 23 entries 11 with a winning record (9 if you drop forfeits) (10 no entries) 120: 25 entries 16 with a winning record (15 if you drop forfeits) (8 no entries) 126: 25 entries 16 with a winning record (15 if you drop forfeits) (8 no entries) 132: 26 entries 13 with a winning record (12 if you drop forfeits) (7 no entries) 138: 27 entries 16 with a winning record (13 if you drop forfeits) (6 no entries) 145: 29 entries 16 with a winning record (11 if you drop forfeits) (4 no entries) 152: 29 entries 18 with a winning record (16 if you drop forfeits) (4 no entries) 160: 26 entries 16 with a winning record (15 if you drop forfeits) (7 no entries) 170: 25 entries 15 with a winning record (12 if you drop forfeits) (8 no entries) 182: 27 entries 17 with a winning record (15 if you drop forfeits) (6 no entries) 195: 27 entries 15 with a winning record (14 if you drop forfeits) (6 no entries) 220: 22 entries 15 with a winning record (12 if you drop forfeits) (11 no entries) 285: 28 entries 14 with a winning record (12 if you drop forfeits) (5 no entries)
A comparison to D3 AA and D3 AAA would be interesting as well.
At least in AA D4 we can afford to drop 1 weight class. 195 to 205, drop 220. Drop 113, 120 to 118, 106 to 108?
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Post by D4wrestling on Feb 13, 2020 12:17:30 GMT -5
There are 28 wrestlers with less than 10 matches wrestled entered as well
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Post by backpoints on Feb 13, 2020 13:50:55 GMT -5
Werent you a little guy? Dropping a light weight is not the answer. Your stats do not show how many of those other spots are filled with kids bumping up in weight. I bet there are plenty.
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Post by ntlfan91 on Feb 13, 2020 15:26:40 GMT -5
Let's just hope they leave it alone and keep it the way it is.
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Post by D4wrestling on Feb 13, 2020 18:55:17 GMT -5
Werent you a little guy? Dropping a light weight is not the answer. Your stats do not show how many of those other spots are filled with kids bumping up in weight. I bet there are plenty. Just creating a discussion. I couldn't make 103 as a freshman. Wrestled 112, 108 would have worked. Some wrestlers might have bumped up. But still shows we are missing a ton of entries. I like the idea of 13 weights, not a fan of the 220 at all
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Post by ntlfan91 on Feb 13, 2020 19:48:06 GMT -5
What's right would you like it? 190 to 285 is to large a gap 210 215? I for one hope they just leave it alone.
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Post by D4wrestling on Feb 13, 2020 19:57:10 GMT -5
What's right would you like it? 190 to 285 is to large a gap 210 215? I for one hope they just leave it alone. I said move 195 to 205. I can give you plenty of examples of kids giving up weight and doing just fine. We are up to 105 no entries for Sectionals.
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Post by ntlfan91 on Feb 13, 2020 20:33:08 GMT -5
What's right would you like it? 190 to 285 is to large a gap 210 215? I for one hope they just leave it alone. I said move 195 to 205. I can give you plenty of examples of kids giving up weight and doing just fine. We are up to 105 no entries for Sectionals. That would work if 182 is still there.
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Post by D4wrestling on Feb 14, 2020 13:12:48 GMT -5
58 Teams in AAA D3
Weight # of entries # of Entries with a winning record 106: 45 entries (13 no entries) 113: 44 entries (14 no entries) 120: 48 entries (10 no entries) 126: 51 entries (7 no entries) 132: 53 entries (5 no entries) 138: 53 entries (5 no entries) 145: 51 entries (7 no entries) 152: 52 entries (6 no entries) 160: 51 entries (7 no entries) 170: 49 entries (9 no entries) 182: 45 entries (13 no entries) 195: 42 entries (16 no entries) 220: 41 entries (17 no entries) 285: 47 entries (11 no entries)
35 Teams in AA D3
Weight # of entries # of Entries with a winning record 106: 22 entries (13 no entries) 113: 28 entries (7 no entries) 120: 28 entries (7 no entries) 126: 26 entries (9 no entries) 132: 30 entries (5 no entries) 138: 30 entries (5 no entries) 145: 30 entries (5 no entries) 152: 28 entries (7 no entries) 160: 29 entries (6 no entries) 170: 27 entries (8 no entries) 182: 23 entries (12 no entries) 195: 26 entries (9 no entries) 220: 25 entries (10 no entries) 285: 23 entries (12 no entries)
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Post by D4wrestling on Feb 14, 2020 13:21:50 GMT -5
D4 combined with AAA/AA D3: 126 schools
No Entries 106 37 113 31 120 25 126 24 132 17 138 16 145 16 152 17 160 20 170 25 182 31 195 31 220 38 285 28
120-170 definitely don't touch
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Post by blackpantherfan on Feb 14, 2020 14:33:04 GMT -5
By the numbers 110 makes sense to me, the North and Central sections are missing 9 out of 22 kids at 106, and at 113 the two sections are missing 8 out of 22, thats alot of empty spaces, 110 makes sense not sure where we go in the upper weights
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Post by tespobr119 on Feb 14, 2020 14:41:07 GMT -5
They should leave the weights alone. Why does it matter how many kids are at certain weights? The point of a weight class is to compete with someone your own size. If the area we live in doesn't have the full amount of "106" competitors or "220" competitors in that given year, why is that a problem?
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Post by blackpantherfan on Feb 14, 2020 14:49:39 GMT -5
I guess its a matter of opinion, if forfeits dont bother you, leave it the way it is or if more then 2 to 3 ffts in a match bother you , lets change it
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Post by blackpantherfan on Feb 14, 2020 15:09:06 GMT -5
I think the seed points need to change somehow, maybe forfeits should not count as much as a match won by wrestling, the number 3 seed at 182 in the south has only 3 matches won on the mats, but has 7 wins by fft, so 10-2 gets him 83.3 points where as a kid with 32-4 only gets 94.8 points, something doesnt look right here, 70% of your wins by ffts,
Just a statement of where wrestling and forfeits are headed, thats why I hope they do lower the number of weight classes
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Post by tespobr119 on Feb 14, 2020 18:23:43 GMT -5
Get more kids out for wrestling, and keep them on the team. That's the solution.
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